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In response to an article on housing policy in the Observer, which needless to say did not mention LVT but came up with a list of tinkering measures


ME: There is no solution to the housing problem without land value taxation - that is a prerequisite.
Without LVT, all the measures listed in the article are just useless tinkering. With LVT, most of them would not be necessary

REPLY FROM Lune13: Zzzzzzz

ME: You do not conceal your towering intellect, do you?

Lune13: Not ever. You are a fanatic who believes an extremely minor single taxation change would have a huge impact. It won't. it is also comically out of line with how most new business generates wealth. Clue- it does not involve land.

ME Fanatic? What word describes someone who comments on something they obviously know absolutely nothing about? There is so much material around on the subject that I am not going to waste time explaining here.

Well, Mr Genius, perhaps you would care to explain why the price of it keeps on going up and up when nobody wants it or needs it any more?

Lune13: How much land do the following highly profitable companies use, and could you possibly tax them on it the same as CGT?

Shell; BP; All the banks; Vodafone; Google; Apple; Etc The answer is- you can't The only valuable thing that LVT can be applied to is peoples houses. The biggest vote losing proposition ever formulated.

Lune13: 80% of the land value of the UK is in residential property. You do know that, right? So, tell me again, how is LVT going to replace any other taxes.

ME: What is your source for this claim? Please show your calculations based on LAND RENTAL VALUE, not selling price, and allow for the fact that some land value is already collected through the UBR and Council Tax.

You have forgotten to take account of Ricardo's Law of Rent, from which it follows that all existing taxes are at the expense of land rental value ie a cut in tax of £1 billion will lead to an aggregate increase in land value of about the same amount. If you can disprove Ricardo then you will get a Nobel Prize in Economics. I will make the journey to Stockholm to congratulate you.

 

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